campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> from guns to benghazi. frank rich, frank, is it just me? am i not wise enough to america to understand why it's apparently not an infringement on the second amendment to ban automatic weapons but it is to ban an ar-15 that can fire 100 bullets in a minute? >> to answer the first question, yes. >> it's not just me? >> it's not just you. excuse me. there's no real logic to this sort of second amendment argument, although it's so deeply ingrained in the american character. it really is an american thing. doesn't mean that people from other places can't understand it, and you obviously have gotten into it very seriously, but it's almost a religious thing. so trying to apply logic to these arguments, they make no sense. they're coming to take away our guns. it's an infringement on our rights. the state, this particularly, i guess, this particularly pr